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Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:59:00 -
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NOOOOOOOO....
If you really want to change the ships, can't you just grab completely new hull... or the "tier 3" hulls??? Come'on Hurricane already has navy version... I invested a lot of skillpoints into gunnery because of Sleip... I hate 'cane hull so I'm gonna probs fly Claymore from now on, but that means my gunnery skills are just waste and I have to spend time on missiles which I do not like as much... But better spit missiles then look at that ugly piece of crap.
DAMN... You made me very VERY sad. |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:51:00 -
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btw: Changing the CS models into tier3 BC's makes much more sense from the lore side as well.
Basically the tier3 BC's are only recently developed designs using their hulls for CS can actually be explained by the companies adapting that design and finding it more suitable for the Command role with the excess power output and whatnot. Then you bind it with the recent rebalance where it were the field command ships that grew quite different to the previous state and bang it all connects into reason.
And not just change for a change into old hulls which already have other variations anyway.
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Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 07:09:00 -
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OTMOROSOK wrote:Dear CCP Fozzie, You've writen:
> The plan is: > Absolution becomes a Carthum Harbinger > Eos becomes a CreoDron Myrmidon > Nighthawk becomes a Kaalakiota Drake > Sleipnir becomes a Boundless Creations Hurricane
Have You ever been playing EVE? Have You taken the part in medium or large gangs ever? Let's imagine that You are saying in team speaker: "Primary Boundless Creations Hurricane! Shoot Boundless Creations Hurricane!" Do You really think that this is possible in real fight?
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The player.
As mentioned a lot of times already, they are not changing the names. They only said which skin/model that ship will become... Names are safe...
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Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 08:54:00 -
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Seems like the discussion is quite pointless....
Fozzie read the thread and is said he's up to date. But then he says the names are gonna stay and BP's are going to switch.
It's "good" to feel ignored like this. Not even mentioning all the ppl who are against the change. What is the point calling all this "proposed models" when that change is done. When I hear "proposal" I would think there is room for discussion. But obviously that is not case here...
GG CCP... |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.10.09 11:36:00 -
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Cassius Invictus wrote:Freyja Asynjur wrote:Got an eye on the new hulls on SISI. Result?
NOPE NOPE NOPE.
The hurricane-hull Sleipnir reveals the scale of this travesty. And, actually, even the myrmified Eos looks bad.
Do. Not. Want. I actually like the new Sleipnir very much. But I fully understand people who don't like it. I didn't like the old Sleipnir, so I didn't skill for it. I did like the old Absolution so I did skill for it. Is it that hard to get CCP? Guys this game is not only about stats - it's about fun. And those changes will ruin a lot of peoples fun...
While I do not agree with you about the new Sleip being nice I have to agree on everything else you said. If CCP would release new t2 BC's with those hulls I would be all for it. I would never fly it, but I'll support it big time for it adds more variety to the game.
But changing class which is as skill intensive as Command Ships are just for whatever cosmetic reasons that is like stabbing us in the back.
I did skill for Sleipnir and now all this is in waste, because I would not fly it with hurricane hull. I hate that hull and I never flew it. Even back then when t1 BC (well before the re-balance) was the best thing I can fly. I chose Cyclone over 'cane and did not mind it was inferior ... 'cause when I fly a ship I want to like what I'm looking at.
Now even if I find another CS to fly from the pool, I would need to spend a lot of time again to train all the support skills that go with it... Such waste... It makes me incredibly sad. I actually do not want to log to the game atm... You took all the fun out of it... I guess I will overcome this eventually but it will never be the same.
Also 7.5% bonus to Shield Boost amount is bonus from Cyclone so there goes consistency...
(my personal opinion is that most of the positive feedback is from ppl who finally get t2 variants of their favorite hull. Something that should be done with new ship class, not by ruining CS as they are now) "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --á Arthur C. Clarke |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:11:00 -
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Battlingbean wrote:Where were all you whiners when this idea was proposed? I remember when everyone I knew in EVE thought that a Kaalakiota Drake would be freaking awesome. Now that it is finally here CCP is drowning in tears. I'm surprised they modify the game at all with this crying.
I like the changes. Especially the CreoDron Myrmidon.
Maybe the fact that the old suggestion was hidden in thread called "About the Eos' model" might have something to do with that... Pilots that do not fly Eos might have simply ignore that one.
Also that one was more like hypothetical. On the other hand this is for real. It's official announcement covering all the Command ships and majority of the command ship pilots is probably reading this.
And from what I see following this thread most of them are against the change but CCP just don't care anyway 'cause the "Feedback was overwhelmingly positive" (-CCP Fozzie) in the previous EOS thread.
I'm still trying to find an alternative ship for me to fly when the Slurricane hits Tranquility... Not really successful so far. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --á Arthur C. Clarke |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.10.25 12:30:00 -
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Lara Feng wrote:^ the above text ^
I could not agree more. I tried to calm down. To let it sink in.... I just can't get along with that... And the worst thing is that there is ZERO communication from CCP...
The explanation they gave us for the changes is indeed complete nuts... And as the post above states, it would be much easier to get along with that if we would have some reasonable explanation. I would still not fly the Slurricane unless the future new model would get HUGE upgrade and will only barely resemble the Hurricane hull (if at all)....
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --á Arthur C. Clarke |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:30:00 -
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Why does everything except this get 2nd updated iteration after receiving such negative player feedback? At least an "It's gonna stay suck it up" from official source would be nice... Just getting more and more disappointing... |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:56:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Aesheera wrote: Also, why 3 fleet Commands and 1 combat Command redesign? Consistency would make more sense: all fleets or all combats adopting new hulls.
There are no longer such things as fleet or combat command ships. That distinction was removed when we rebalanced the class. And just to be clear we're still early on and nothing is set in stone at this point. What I don't want to do however is make kneejerk changes before more people have had a chance to try them out and give the alternate hulls a chance on Sisi.. Take the time to check them out on Sisi and let the idea settle in, keep letting us know what you think. We will continue to be taking feedback for quite a while.
8th of October was the last dev reply.... We are not that early anymore... . You did not even mention it in yesterdays stream... Can you at least kill my hope, that it will NOT be implemented, so I can enjoy the last few days in my Sleipnir without worrying what's gonna happen in Rubicon???
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --á Arthur C. Clarke |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.11.17 18:48:00 -
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Dear CCP, thanks for listening to the overwhelmingly positive feedback in this thread.
/sarcasm off
You know I was following the thread from the very beginning and I was hoping you will change your mind because the overall feeling from this was so negative.
A lot of the positive feedback comes from people who simply wish to have t2 versions of 'cane, drake and the others. So you will make them happy but at the same time the people who actually fly the command ships usually disagree. not every time of course. It's like me.... I spent all my training so far on Sleipnir and I did love the ship. So I'm completely against the change. I do not really care about any of the other CS, 'cause I don't fly them...
So.. maybe you should listen to poeple who actually already fly the ships and not those who will now go for them because they get they favorite hull in t2...
Not to mention there is NULL response from you.
Disappointed very much. A lot of my training was rendered useless... GG CCP. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --á Arthur C. Clarke |
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Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.11.20 17:45:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:XeonSA wrote:Another really bad decision from ccp. do u ever listen to u'r player base before u implement bogus ideas like this? Grats on losing players since 2011 Contrary to your belief, this is CCP listening to their players. This was brought up in a previous thread and it was overwhelmingly popular. It was tweeted, it was broadcasted all over the forums, it was on YouTube and it was on Reddit as well as spammed in lots of ingame chat channels. Don't complain because you arrived late to the party.
I arrived early to that party and following it since I do not see the overwhelmingly positive feedback. What I saw was huge demand on T2 BC for the alternate hulls. So a new T2 BC for those hulls would cause exactly the same euphoria which CCP thought is caused by the model switch on Command ships.
Just reintroducing modified Field Commands for this would do the trick... drop the link bonuses so they do not interfere with the Command line of BC, give it some sig bonus as role bonus, name it Assault Battlecruisers and everyone is happy.
Right now you destroyed numerous ICONIC ships for no real reason... Well played CCP. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --á Arthur C. Clarke |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.11.30 09:18:00 -
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Yonis Kador wrote: I hope so.
I hope it doesn't resemble a Harbinger whatsoever.
Because as I have limited missile skills, I'm going to need one. The Absolution was a souped-up version of the Prophecy hull that got snatched away and as it always was a goal - it just became a more-important goal over the past few months. I'm not flying that Harb-variant, no matter how good it is. Asthetics matter more to me than many other things. So now I definately need a new goal. I still think the Damnation is beautiful and sure, I want one. But it's still not the same. When they took the Prophecy, it was my favorite-styled t1 ship and it sucked to lose it. But this time, they killed a 5-year-old dream. I've slept, and I feel better about it, but this still sucks worse. I didn't even get a chance to complain before the change and making a spectacle of yourself after the fact is lame. It's demoralizing. So I probably won't have anything else to add.
The only silver lining is that my interim goal until Dec. 7th is to earn isk for PFG so I'll have another week for this to sink in. I'm just not even going to think about it. I hate it that much.
But if there's any chance the paintball number being fired at Dolan rises too high to guarantee his safety, put me down for shooting the rest at Fozzie.
Ugh.
YK
Insert minmatar variations to your post and you'll have my feelings exactly. And trust me... complaining before the change would not help you anyway as CCP did not listen to complains because of all the overwhelming feedback they supposedly got earlier. I dunno. I was following the change from the beginning. I was against it from the beginning. and I was not alone. But it did not matter at all.
You should be happy. At least you were spared the frustration of being ignored by CCP in your complain and watching them change it anyway.... You got few more months of joy from the old models. I spent them in sorrow every time I sat in Sleipnir just awaiting the inevitable. :/
And yeah it sucks big time and I'm definitely not over it nor would I ever be I guess. Unless the new models are so awesome and hardly resemble the hurricane hull... Which I can't imagine happening...
And CCP remains to be silent on that topic... "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --á Arthur C. Clarke |
Tinukeda'ya Naskingar
Minmatar Expeditions ltd.
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:12:00 -
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Ellumielle wrote: The original thread that is being referred to which supposedly got overwhelming positive feedback had a misleading title which only proposed a change to the eos, which is why most people flying other command ships probably ignored it. I hate the new sleipnir but I've learned my lesson, read everything, complain as soon as possible if you don't like it.
Exactly what I said earlier somewhere in this thread... :( "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --á Arthur C. Clarke |
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